Nuovo Colore: Neon

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Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
16 febbraio, 2016 [07:29]
Le azioni poderose possono essere eseguite sia grazie a Araldo che Roulette del Destino.

Stavo ragionando sulle caratteristiche base delle azioni poderose rispetto ad effetti che semplicemente aumentano l' esito di un tiro.

1) Quando aumenti il risultato di un tiro migliori la capacità di fare più azioni più efficacemente, mentre con un' azione poderosa puoi eseguire meno azioni ( nella maggior parte dei casi una sola) ma più efficacemente in modo crescente in base ai dadi usati, tuttavia per adoperarlo a dovere devi usare molti dadi restringengo e ponendo anche in una situazione a rischio il personaggio.

2) L' aumento di tiro può essere incrementato di intensità, per esempio una magia può incrementare con più numeri l' esito di un tiro, mentre un tiro poderoso è un effetto qualitativo, cioè una volta applicato non ne puoi applicare di migliori. Infatti di solito gli incantesimi che aumentano l' esito di un tiro mirano a crescere intensivamente, mentre un' azione poderosa si applica estensivamente cioè a più individui.

E alla fine dei conti non so se l' azione poderosa è sufficientemente potente, o se viene applicata con soddisfazione.
Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
17 febbraio, 2016 [10:18]
Secondo me, sulla carta, sono dei bonus non da poco. Hanno senso, chiaramente, quando lavori su una singola azione, con due dadi hai un +2. Ed è un bonus flessibile, nel senso che con Araldo, se hai bisogno di attaccare, tutti hanno il bonus, se ti vuoi coprire, tutti hanno il bonus... non essendo un potenziatore di QP ma un bonus generico non è male. D'altronde hai un incremento fisso del 50% dell'azione migliorata. L'unica cosa che mi viene in mente è che, anche per marcare una differenza maggiore tra le due, potresti fare in modo che una delle magie influenzi un numero minore di bersagli, ma con punteggi alti (fascia 40-45) il bonus passi a +4. E allora si che volano gli schiaffi!!!
Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
17 febbraio, 2016 [10:28]
Preferirei lasciare l'esito della magia in modo lineare per ora, si tratta pur sempre delle prime magie che applicano un effetto del genere e penso debbano essere meno complicate in tal riguardo.

Detto questo preferirei tenere le azioni poderose con un bonus fisso e definito ( magari facciamo che le azioni supreme danno +4? tongue sticking out smiley ) e piuttosto lavoro sul resto della magia.

Un'altra cosa che stavo considerando era aggiungere un effetto addizionale all AP, per esempio nella mia proposta raddoppiava anche altri bonus alle AM, ma forse vo a intrigare inutilmente la cosa. In futuro dovrò concettualizzare meglio le magie intorno alle azioni poderose, tipo fare incantesimi che forniscono azione poderosa e un effetto bonus se la usi.

Detto questo 6 pagine! Woot!
Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
17 febbraio, 2016 [10:59]
Forse il +4 secco è tanto, di base... per quello dicevo di "frammentare" in maniera scalare i bonus. Anche perchè raramente avrai sette persone su cui sparare l'incantesimo. E difficilmente in sette faranno la tua stessa azione (vedasi araldo), per quello consigliavo di variare la cosa. Però bon, era solo un consiglio anche per dare più senso al risultato della magia e non overlappare troppo le ibride =)
Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
17 febbraio, 2016 [11:41]
Ma infatti hai ragione sui sette bersagli, voglio solo trovare una soluzione dove non ho bisogno di rendere AP variabile. anche perchè poi toccherebbe fare una magia con il testo lungo eoni. sembra ridicolo per un gdr carta e penna ma imporre una certa dose di conoscenza a un giocatore può portarlo a non interessarsi alla magia rendendo di fatto il lavoro inutile, a meno che non dimostri che tale sforzo ne valga la pena.

C' è da dire che la magia è bilanciata per pg non totalmente incentrati su MA, quindi sta al giocatore dosare la propria forza a seconda della necessità e non necessariamente andare sempre per il risultato migliore ( come per palla di fuoco): a differenza delle magie che incrementano i tiri di una base fissa in questo caso l' effetto aumenta enormemente in base ai dadi complessivi disponibili, e questi incrememtano semplicemente salendo di livello e solo dopo in base ai bersagli disponibili. Poi vabbè, usando evocati e facendo interagire altri npc con l' avventura si raggiunge abbastanza bene il limite di 7 bersagli.
Re: Nuovo Colore: Neon
17 febbraio, 2016 [03:34]
In realtà, basta metterlo nella tabella, a parer mio: tipo 35, 3 Bersagli, Azione poderosa +3
45, 4 Bersagli, Azione poderosa +4

Però oh, ripeto, alla fine vedi tu eh, la scalabilità si gioca solo su bersagli e variabile numerica, con un +3 hai costantemente e sempre un +50% alle azioni migliorate, e la cosa non migliora mai =)
Re: Magie Bicolore e Personaggi Sporchi
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